The Two Testaments
A Guided Journey through Scripture
Welcome to The Two Testaments podcast, a guided journey through Scripture with leading experts on the Bible, hosted by Rony Kozman, Will Kynes, and Alex Kirk.
We interview scholars to discuss the meanings of verses, passages, and books of the Bible. Think of us as an audio Bible commentary—but more exciting!—where you get to hear scholars and practitioners trying to make sense of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures.
This podcast is for all students of the Bible—pastors, Bible teachers, ministry leaders, students, and all who are curious about the Bible.
Meet Rony, Alex, and Will
Teachers, Scholars, Podcast Enthusiasts
Rony Kozman
Rony Kozman is Assistant Professor of Biblical and Religious Studies at Samford University. Before coming to Samford, Rony earned his PhD in the Study of Religion and Jewish Studies at the University of Toronto, and prior to that an MA in Religious Studies at McMaster University. A specialist in the New Testament and early Jewish literature, Rony’s research interests include ancient Jewish and Christian interpretations of the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament, Second Temple Judaism, and the Apostle Paul.
Rony’s first book, Adam’s Wisdom and Israel’s Law: Paul, Early Judaism, and Natural Law Tradition (Baylor University Press, forthcoming 2025), uncovers an ancient Jewish version of natural law, argues that this Adam’s law tradition surfaces repeatedly in the Letter to the Romans and illuminates Paul’s take on the law of Moses. His essays on ancient Jewish and Christian biblical interpretation have appeared in the biblical studies journals, Dead Sea Discoveries, Zeitschrift für die alttestamentliche Wissenschaft, and in a special issue of Religions.
Alex Kirk is Assistant Professor of Divinity (Old Testament and Hebrew) at Beeson Divinity School, Samford University. A philologist and a theologian by training, Alex’s academic interests range from biblical Hebrew linguistics and text criticism to poetry, wisdom literature, hermeneutics and theological interpretation of Scripture. Alex earned a PhD at Durham University in Theology & Religion (Old Testament), an MA at The University of Toronto in Near and Middle Eastern Civilizations (North West Semitic Languages), and an MDiv from Reformed Theological Seminary-Orlando. He has taught the Bible in nearly a dozen countries all around the world, previously holding positions with Training Leaders International, William Tennent School of Theology, and Crosslands Training (UK).
Alex Kirk
Will Kynes
Will Kynes completed an M.Litt. at the University of St. Andrews, and a Ph.D. at the University of Cambridge. He then taught at the University of Oxford, Whitworth University, and Samford University before transitioning from academia to business. He now works as Chief of Staff at Ajax Health, a company that invests in innovative medical technologies.
His first book, My Psalm Has Turned into Weeping: Job’s Dialogue with the Psalms, earned international recognition in 2015, when it was awarded the Manfred Lautenschläger Award for Theological Promise. His second monograph, An Obituary for “Wisdom Literature”: The Birth, Death, and Intertextual Reintegration of a Biblical Corpus (OUP, 2019) challenges the modern imposition of the “Wisdom” category and its associated post-Enlightenment ideals on the biblical text. He has also written Wrestling with Job: Defiant Faith in the Face of Suffering (IVP Academic, 2022) with Bill Kynes and edited several collections of essays, including The Oxford Handbook of Wisdom and the Bible (OUP, 2021), and published a number of scholarly articles and essays.
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