Dr. Mike Bird (Ridley College) and Dr. Nijay Gupta (Northern Seminary) talk to us about Romans 12–15:13. We discuss a number of things including: Paul’s cultic metaphors; Paul’s ethics; why Paul enjoins obedience to the government; and the identity of the strong and the weak. Speaking of metaphors—scholarship on Paul’s letters is likened to a UFC brawl and to New York City’s smelly odors and lack of parking spaces.